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batamhater
09-09-2004, 07:36 PM
Was it ever mentioned in this forum that Batam is considered or referred to as “An Island of Sin”? Let me now correct this fallacy, Batam should actually be called “The Island of Sinning Singaporeans”. Do you know that, over the years, ferries laden with horny ah peks, sex crazed ah bengs and frustrated melayu men, gambling ‘ahsohs” and uncles, and other such “fine” citizens of this idiotic nation, have managed to transform this beautiful, unspoilt, backwater island paradise called Batam into what it is today……a cesspool of sex, gambling, corruption and drugs , turning the whole island into a thriving magnet for hustlers, street hookers, corrupt government officials and unseedy businesses that profit from gambling and sleaze. “We are Singapore, singapore….Sing-a-po-reans..” so the song goes…

This trail of destruction left by us Singaporeans in Batam consists mainly of the following: uprooting innocent young gals from all over the country into selling themselves into sex slavery so that the sexual cravings of you horny bastards can be satisfied for the price of a cheap fuck, spreading of STDs, propagating drug abuse and broken families and loss of hard earned incomes via gambling.

It’s damn sickening when I read so called ‘lau chiao’ samsters gloating about their bonking experiences with ceweks and feeling so goddamned proud of their “conquests”. Please own up however you are. It’s reminds me of similar stories of those uncouth Australian “bogens” (ie aussie equivalent of an “ah beng”) who boasts about fucking in Bali for A$2 a fuck!!. These are the type of lower- class society who goes to a neighboring country to completely overturn the simple and traditional way of life of the locals and their culture. Does this example sound familiar?

You all are nothing but a bunch of beasts who go to Batam to release your pent-up frustrations because in Singapore you are so “well behaved” and constantly being regulated to affront a high moral standard but once overseas in batam, you idiots expose your true selves onto an otherwise innocent culture typical of an unspoilt Malay society. Imagine if you are a ‘cewek’ in Batam, having to sleep with all types of men each night just so that you can earn the equivalent of $40 and you do this because you need to send money back to feed your family in Kalimantan! For a WL in Singapore, it is different because those selling themselves here can afford to drive BMWs and live in petulant luxury. Not only that, the idiots who go Batam are unknowingly fattening the pockets of syndicates who run the Prostitution, Gambling and Corruption .

After reading the above, u guys still happy to go Batam? I bet you will still as the lure of cheap and meaningless exploitation of a 3rd world nation is only a stone’s throw away from our shores, how to resist, right?? If only the Amnesty International could investigate you all for this exploitation /human right abuse! I welcome all rebuttals to this thread and to frankly share what u feel is not the TRUTH above the views displayed above.



Quote: “ You want the TRUTH, you can’t handle the TRUTH”.

sassina2
09-09-2004, 08:19 PM
..........Imagine if you are a ‘cewek’ in Batam, having to sleep with all types of men each night just so that you can earn the equivalent of $40 and you do this because you need to send money back to feed your family in Kalimantan!

For a WL in Singapore, it is different because those selling themselves here can afford to drive BMWs and live in petulant luxury.
..............

Not only that, the idiots who go Batam are unknowingly fattening the pockets of syndicates who run the Prostitution, Gambling and Corruption .

Quote: “ You want the TRUTH, you can’t handle the TRUTH”.


Just to continue to entertain and amuse you,

1) Some Ceweks sleep and fuck us just to earn money to upgrade their mobile phones to the latest models and to top up their "pulsa" so that they can continue to sms and call us over to fuck them more! And the cycle continues.

And, they may not care to send money back to their village at all but rather to buy Honda CRVs to drive in Jakarta!

2) If all the WLs in Sillypore are driving BMWs, the statistics of motor sales would have BMWs topping the sales records each and every month.

Where the fuck have you been? Masturbating in your bathroom while your wife goes out to church to sing hyms while you trawl these forums to vent your frustrations at us cos she won't suck your prick?

3) What is the difference between a "syndicate in crime" in Batam and a "syndicate in government" in Sillypore?

As I can see, both are and have been profiteering from sex and crime and yet, you continue to buy your 4-D. toto,. have your geylang "legitimate" fuck , entertain at some high society Karaoke Club (note rents are paid and these pay property taxes which are governmental) while your maid works at home (and the government collects its obscene maid's levy monthly) etc etc.

The above, just one purposeful twisted perspective to a multitude of perspectives on life in Sillypore and the real world around us.

Most of us are in this forum to share experiences and help each other explore what the world has to offer us be it Batam or Russia or Mongolia - real life explorations which I pity you in that your explorations, may be limited to self manupilations and the odd poke in your domestic abode while reading the Straits Times and what it perpetuates and, you absorb like a sponge!

Stop wasting your time here and go back to your masturbations!

batamhater
09-09-2004, 08:37 PM
are we going to discuss how we should not be having sex with prostitutes next?

bring your disgusts to the coffeeshop forum.
Than should I change the title to "The Truth About Batam Forums". Would that be more appropriate? If you can freely advertise yourself as a 'Sex Maniac', I can also give my independent views about sex! Like you, I thought this is a free thread and free world! Did I pick your conscience or made you feel guilty? You don't like what I say, right?

batamhater
09-09-2004, 09:19 PM
Most of us are in this forum to share experiences and help each other explore what the world has to offer us be it Batam or Russia or Mongolia - real life explorations which I pity you in that your explorations, may be limited to self manupilations and the odd poke in your domestic abode while reading the Straits Times and what it perpetuates and, you absorb like a sponge!

Stop wasting your time here and go back to your masturbations![/QUOTE]

Wah! Did I touch a nerve? Since you scream so loud and lamblasting me means you one of the people I referred to? Thanks for owing up. But one question? You immediately assume I am of a pro sg no nonsense profile because you cannot accept a different perspective of Batam? Of the same token which you tried to describe me, what makes you so different just because you patron of ceweks? Maybe I know Batam better than you? I love to debate you and accept some of your comments about ceweks living a good life. But truthfully do you really believe that is the norm or the exception? They minta isi pulsa because a lot of abangs like you to contact and hustle.

Please correct me if I am wrong? Don’t assume you so lau chiou Batam that you not talking to one? Keep guessing ………….

ladyassassinato
09-09-2004, 09:38 PM
Wah! Did I touch a nerve? Since you scream so loud and lamblasting me means you one of the people I referred to? Thanks for owing up. But one question? You immediately assume I am of a pro sg no nonsense profile because you cannot accept a different perspective of Batam? Of the same token which you tried to describe me, what makes you so different just because you patron of ceweks? Maybe I know Batam better than you? I love to debate you and accept some of your comments about ceweks living a good life. But truthfully do you really believe that is the norm or the exception? They minta isi pulsa because a lot of abangs like you to contact and hustle.

Please correct me if I am wrong? Don’t assume you so lau chiou Batam that you not talking to one? Keep guessing ………….


Bro. u tok cok la. people here in this forum go batam for only one thing... and there is nothing innocent about that? We all want to get out of Sillypore to vent our stressed out meaningless lives in some way or others. Some may go to do silly shopping in JB or even go bloody tokyo to see flowers bloom. But in SB forum, we are what we are and so what if we 'gloat' or share similar experiences bec we are all "CHEONGSTERS". There is no 2 ways about it. Be it batam, bangkok, hadyai or china or macau etc, this is the way the world is. Seems like u wanna change it hor!! :eek:

batamhater
09-09-2004, 10:07 PM
Bro. u tok cok la. people here in this forum go batam for only one thing... and there is nothing innocent about that? We all want to get out of Sillypore to vent our stressed out meaningless lives in some way or others. Some may go to do silly shopping in JB or even go bloody tokyo to see flowers bloom. But in SB forum, we are what we are and so what if we 'gloat' or share similar experiences bec we are all "CHEONGSTERS". There is no 2 ways about it. Be it batam, bangkok, hadyai or china or macau etc, this is the way the world is. Seems like u wanna change it hor!! :eek:
See what you did? You just validated my argument. So it's ture. Batam is a place where the likes of you go to vent your frustrations. Fatten the purse of those sleazebags and casino operators. Banyah bodoh kawan.

sassina2
09-09-2004, 11:43 PM
Wah! Did I touch a nerve?
Since you scream so loud and lamblasting me means you one of the people I referred to? Thanks for owing up. But one question?
You immediately assume I am of a pro sg no nonsense profile because you cannot accept a different perspective of Batam?

Of the same token which you tried to describe me, what makes you so different just because you patron of ceweks? Maybe I know Batam better than you? I love to debate you and accept some of your comments about ceweks living a good life.

But truthfully do you really believe that is the norm or the exception? They minta isi pulsa because a lot of abangs like you to contact and hustle.

Please correct me if I am wrong? Don’t assume you so lau chiou Batam that you not talking to one? Keep guessing ………….

Well done,
I am not assuming nothing more than you are assuming anything since you like to talk in riddles.

Patron of ceweks I am not., a fucker, yes! I would not doubt that you are or may be a more experienced batam "goer" than myself and so what?

I wonder where your "batamhating" comes from,
perhaps a deep underlying "failure" or screw-up somewhere during your own many visits?

No raw nerves here on my part cos I do have a wonderful and realistic self-image and I accept my personal successes and failures as realistically as I can and move along all the time!

Just wondering,
where you coming from cos the way you wrote, about about WLs in Sillypore and their BMWs ;

I assumed (rightly or wrongly as you have too)
that you think of yourself as some BIG TIME cheongster of HIGH CLASS well paid WLs but,

whatever size "your mountain", perhaps you will realize one day that there are others higher than yours! (no its not me I am talking about).
Lets say that many people here have BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT TOO!

Since you chose to "provoke" the contributors here ( be they ah peks or newbies or lau chious),

I thought it would be wonderful to work the other way to "smoke" you out of your camouflage by giving you a little taste of your own medicine with unsupported abuse!

Never have I claimed nor assumed nor accepted any title for "lau chiou" while I notice that you are attempting to claim some!

Perhaps, you might just be happily accepted whatever your circle around you or have you wandered a little into "foreign territory" and your brand of entertainment is to abuse people while you masturbate at your screen?

I LOVE BATAM!

And you can call me anything you like,

tell me your name and I will call it all out whenever I cum! and words will be

"Fuck you (your name) this one is for you!"

(and I assume that you have a good sense of humour too and can take as much as you can give!)

Libra
09-09-2004, 11:44 PM
Dear Brother Assinas!

I'm surprised that you even bother to reply him! you are really kind! ;) for some reasons I believe he deduct my repute from 16 to 13! I guess....

sassina2
09-09-2004, 11:50 PM
Ah ya, he just greased his own arse and wanted it poked so I got nothing to do sometimes entertain us and

PUSHED IT UP HIS ARSE

and, it does give some of us a pleasure I am sure!

hyper_rev
10-09-2004, 05:33 AM
This thread should be locked...

Go bring your bullshit elsewhere... :mad:

LauheroNo1
10-09-2004, 07:20 AM
Ha, I think there is no point to argue with him or waste our breath to scold him. To me, to screw a WL (whether a ceweks or a top super model), as long as she did it willingly, that is fine for me. It's just like buying vegetables at the market - I need, you sell, I buy. Simple and straight forward.

Prostitutation is a trade that had been exist from the very beginning where there is human being. So we are just practising our need. :rolleyes:

DNAT
10-09-2004, 12:00 PM
Was it ever mentioned in this forum that Batam is considered or referred to as “An Island of Sin”? Let me now correct this fallacy, Batam should actually be called “The Island of Sinning Singaporeans”.
I LOVE BATAM :D

DNAT
10-09-2004, 12:03 PM
Do you know that, over the years, ferries laden with horny ah peks, sex crazed ah bengs and frustrated melayu men, gambling ‘ahsohs” and uncles, and other such “fine” citizens of this idiotic nation, have managed to transform this beautiful, unspoilt, backwater island paradise called Batam into what it is today……a cesspool of sex, gambling, corruption and drugs , turning the whole island into a thriving magnet for hustlers, street hookers, corrupt government officials and unseedy businesses that profit from gambling and sleaze.

We knew all the above even before we arrive there :o
so whats new?

You want us to support you to run for the next Presidential Election so that you could restore order, stability and sustain double digit economic growth in Batam? .... yeah! :)

DNAT
10-09-2004, 12:23 PM
This trail of destruction left by us Singaporeans in Batam consists mainly of the following: uprooting innocent young gals from all over the country into selling themselves into sex slavery so that the sexual cravings of you horny bastards can be satisfied for the price of a cheap fuck, spreading of STDs, propagating drug abuse and broken families and loss of hard earned incomes via gambling.

It’s damn sickening when I read so called ‘lau chiao’ samsters gloating about their bonking experiences with ceweks and feeling so goddamned proud of their “conquests”. Please own up however you are. It’s reminds me of similar stories of those uncouth Australian “bogens” (ie aussie equivalent of an “ah beng”) who boasts about fucking in Bali for A$2 a fuck!!. These are the type of lower- class society who goes to a neighboring country to completely overturn the simple and traditional way of life of the locals and their culture. Does this example sound familiar?


I OWN UP .... I OWN UP :o

But .... I understand that the other major Indo cities such as Jkt and Surabaya are similarly infested with KTV joints, fuck shops and other form of illicit activities - even more extreme than Batam ....

What are you gonna do? .... :eek:

DNAT
10-09-2004, 12:28 PM
For a WL in Singapore, it is different because those selling themselves here can afford to drive BMWs and live in petulant luxury.

Wake up lah ..... are you saying that the 22 y.o. KTV hotess who was knocked down by a moving vehicle along Ayer Rayjah days ago, after she dashed out from the cab = live in petulant luxury?
:confused:

DNAT
10-09-2004, 01:31 PM
They minta isi pulsa because a lot of abangs like you to contact and hustle.



You sure they dun use the simparti card we purchased/top up for them, to call their local cewok / boy fren / toy-boy ? :cool:

I had one of the regular FL whom even used my Nokia 8210 (my spare phone, loan her w/o sim card cos hers is sent for repair) for 2 weeks, to store a Medan cewok's phone #. I called that # and the Medan guy said he only had ONS with her and tip her Rp50K as cab fare .... he is a chinese/teochew and he was kind enuff to ask me not to 'put too much heart' on that gal .... :D

Ratcool69
10-09-2004, 01:56 PM
Hello Batamhater,

What you wrote or should consider to write is your own opinion...and should stay in your head...as you can clearly see..no one in the right frame of mind in this forum would agree with you...

Do you know the rat race we are constantly having here in Singapore..we race to stay ahead...we race to survive..we race to finish our work..

The stress that we go through.. is never the same as in Indonesia or Malaysia...

I know a few ceweks in Batam..some like what they are doing, some get sold by their parents...so who's fault if we don't help them...where will they be without us ...still stuck under the PIMP's armpit forever..

Do you ever think what you are writing before thinking..

Please consider yourself very selfish as you don't put yourself in others shoes.. and also made comments on the ceweks whereby you don't know the real stories..

So go ahead & deduct my rep points..cause I'm very sure..you'll do that...BORN LOSER

DNAT
10-09-2004, 02:21 PM
If only the Amnesty International could investigate you all for this exploitation /human right abuse! I welcome all rebuttals to this thread and to frankly share what u feel is not the TRUTH above the views displayed above.

Quote: “ You want the TRUTH, you can’t handle the TRUTH”.
exploitation / human rights abuse ??? ... - Oh no! I am a criminal ... I am an animal .... :o

Let me present my argument with my basic knowledge of Statistics 1001:

It is reported that a conservative estimate of 600 Sillypore men flock to Batam on every weekend, lets round it up to 1,000 for the entire week and each spends an average of S$200 per 2D1N trip

The TRUTH = S$200 x 1000 (pax) x 52 (weeks) = SGD10,400,000.00 annually
:eek:

Amnesty International - receives large sums of donations from generous individual/corporate donors annually

Batam ceweks - receive Rp ? from ??? - Rupiahs fall from sky ya?

Ratcool69
10-09-2004, 02:38 PM
Well said Bro DNAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chinchai
10-09-2004, 02:47 PM
exploitation / human rights abuse ??? ... - Oh no! I am a criminal ... I am an animal .... :o

Let me present my argument with my basic knowledge of Statistics 1001:

It is reported that a conservative estimate of 600 Sillypore men flock to Batam on every weekend, lets round it up to 1,000 for the entire week and each spends an average of S$200 per 2D1N trip

The TRUTH = S$200 x 1000 (pax) x 52 (weeks) = SGD10,400,000.00 annually
:eek:

Amnesty International - receives large sums of donations from generous individual/corporate donors annually

Batam ceweks - receive Rp ? from ??? - Rupiahs fall from sky ya?

Nice Statistics, to add: I bet 3/4 of this money are feeding alots of staving Indos AND SENDING THE CHILDREN TO SCHOOL. Imagine what they would have become without this fund.....maybe another terrorist TERRORIST.

DNAT
10-09-2004, 02:59 PM
It’s damn sickening when I read so called ‘lau chiao’ samsters gloating about their bonking experiences with ceweks and feeling so goddamned proud of their “conquests”.


Mind you, we had many of our cheated/tipu (trick) lousy fucks stories too .... you wann hear them? :D

Besides, those who posted their Batam FRs in which he expects to bonk the joint cewek 12 times within a 24 hour booking session will not be spared from my BBQ flames ... I guaranteed :mad:

DNAT
10-09-2004, 03:05 PM
din know calling prositute could fulfill such a noble cause, next trip to batam I will bonk a few more or give more tips
Dear General,
Will you wear your military uniform and your sword when you visit Batam?

" ..... Hormat, akan dia ra .... Hormat .... Senjata! (present arms) " :D

DNAT
10-09-2004, 03:19 PM
Nice Statistics, to add: I bet 3/4 of this money are feeding alots of staving Indos AND SENDING THE CHILDREN TO SCHOOL. Imagine what they would have become without this fund......
The inflow of funds (SGD to Batam) also, perhaps not boost but, at least help to maintain the steady growth of many sectors and industries:

- hospitality: hotels, resorts & golf courses
- food and beverages: resurants, food stalls & eatery
- health care: massage lah ... what else :D
- entertainment: pubs, KTV and disco
- transportation: ojeks, cabs and mini-vans

in Sg - eggs don't come in, a lot of Sg ppl kena affected
in BT - cheongsters don't come in, a lot of BT ppl also kalah

Don't laugh ..... its the same leh ..... ;)

JOGK
10-09-2004, 03:22 PM
Dear General,
Will you wear your military uniform and your sword when you visit Batam?

" ..... Hormat, akan dia ra .... Hormat .... Senjata! (present arms) " :D


we go ntuc we buy grocery
we go singaporepools we place bets
we go batam we cheong
thats part of life brother
this is earth not heaven ;)

DNAT
10-09-2004, 03:25 PM
we go ntuc we buy grocery
we go singaporepools we place bets
we go batam we cheong
thats part of life brother
this is earth not heaven ;)
wow lan .... since when you become a poet?

we go batam we cheong .... - cannot go there to worship the Tua peh Kong and buy salted fish & kueh lepis and come back meh? ;)

JOGK
10-09-2004, 03:39 PM
wow lan .... since when you become a poet?

we go batam we cheong .... - cannot go there to worship the Tua peh Kong and buy salted fish & kueh lepis and come back meh? ;)


honestly if you do that
i wont called this earth

cheongkid
10-09-2004, 03:46 PM
we go batam we cheong .... - cannot go there to worship the Tua peh Kong and buy salted fish & kueh lepis and come back meh? ;)
I go Batam is to makan seafood and bungkus murtabak keju, can't find it in Sillypore...

Ratcool69
10-09-2004, 04:08 PM
Bro ,

Can tapau for me....hmmmm

DNAT
10-09-2004, 04:12 PM
I go Batam is to makan seafood and bungkus murtabak keju, can't find it in Sillypore...
cheese murtabak ..... ???

bring your own cheese to the murtabak stall and ask them to bikin itu lah :)
I prefer murtabak - kepiting sos ya :D

Ratcool69
10-09-2004, 04:13 PM
Bro, from A1 is it???

DNAT
10-09-2004, 04:14 PM
honestly if you do that
i wont called this earth
abang, kenapa lu gak percaya gue? :o

DNAT
10-09-2004, 04:17 PM
Bro, from A1 is it???
ask CK, he is tar pow-ing .... kami tunggu di WTC aja :p

JOGK
10-09-2004, 04:31 PM
abang, kenapa lu gak percaya gue? :o

because saints and ferries dont live on earth
only humans

DNAT
10-09-2004, 04:37 PM
JOGK,
dun tok kok sing song too much .... Moderator says stick to the topic ya :)

vaxvms
10-09-2004, 04:49 PM
I go Batam is to makan seafood and bungkus murtabak keju, can't find it in Sillypore...


last nite talk BATAM now heart itchy itchy liao iszit?

cheongkid
10-09-2004, 04:54 PM
Bro, from A1 is it???
Forgot what's the name of the shop...got one stall in Lucky Plaza and another next to Nagoya Plaza Hotel.

DNAT
10-09-2004, 04:57 PM
After reading the above, u guys still happy to go Batam? I bet you will still as the lure of cheap and meaningless exploitation of a 3rd world nation is only a stone’s throw away from our shores, how to resist, right?? .
Ya rite! way much cheaper ...

Sg
Average spending (similar activities of hunting a FL in a nite spot)

drinks (2 beers) = S$20
Cab fare (Orchard to GL) = S$10
booking fee = S$200
hotel = S$40
total = S$270
- 2am - 9am

BT

ferry = S$24 + S$3 seaport tax
cab fare (whole trip) = S$30
booking fee = S$50
tips = S$10
dinner / supper = S$20
drinks at nite spot (2 jugs of Bintang bir) = S$50
hotel = S$40
total = S$227
- 1pm - 1 pm (next day)

cheaper by S$43/= :D

cheongkid
10-09-2004, 05:04 PM
last nite talk BATAM now heart itchy itchy liao iszit?
Last night got talk about Batam meh? Thought only touch on Krung Thep...

Better not tcss too much here...later appointed moderator zap points...

JOGK
10-09-2004, 05:14 PM
JOGK,
dun tok kok sing song too much .... Moderator says stick to the topic ya :)


knn reminded me something
just now kenna f88k by her for not going today
keep asking me when :o

DNAT
10-09-2004, 05:21 PM
knn reminded me something
just now kenna f88k by her for not going today
keep asking me when :o
then you should convey her message to the thread starter ...

"see, my sayang ask me to go Batam .... not that I wanna go 1 leh"
:D

JOGK
10-09-2004, 05:23 PM
then you should convey her message to the thread starter ...

"see, my sayang ask me to go Batam .... not that I wanna go 1 leh"
:D

worst still not ask
demand! :D

AhBengKeong
10-09-2004, 05:31 PM
Dear Brother Assinas!

I'm surprised that you even bother to reply him! you are really kind! ;) for some reasons I believe he deduct my repute from 16 to 13! I guess....

knn.....let me add back for u

DNAT
10-09-2004, 05:51 PM
Not only that, the idiots who go Batam are unknowingly fattening the pockets of syndicates who run the Prostitution, Gambling and Corruption .

the syndicate members of the Prostitution, Gambling and Corruption also got family to feed & children to breed ;)

even if Prostitution, Gambling and Corruption are eradicated under the present adminstration of the Office in power, who would guarantee the next office in power would not uplift the ban? :eek:

Candyman
10-09-2004, 08:10 PM
What Bro JOGK say is very true, few years ago went batam chiong got this girl from a ktv book her for a few time till now even she quit from ktv liao also call me to go batam to see her cos she abang saya rindo.

TheUnforgiven
10-09-2004, 10:40 PM
Imagine if you are a ‘cewek’ in Batam, having to sleep with all types of men each night just so that you can earn the equivalent of $40 and you do this because you need to send money back to feed your family in Kalimantan!

Most prostitutes are in this line for one reason: greed. There are women who would rather stay poor and able to eat just a meal a day than to sell her body, and there are those who rather starve to death as well. "Feeding the family" is a repetitive and unconvincing excuse for what they are doing. It doesn't only apply to Batam but everywhere. Of course there are exceptions, but like I said, they are exceptions.

Remember, it always take two hands to clap. So please stop lambasting at us "Singaporeans" for turning Batam into a sin island. FYI, if you think I'm just making excuses for myself, I have never been to Batam and I am no longer doing commercial sex.

JOGK
10-09-2004, 11:37 PM
Most prostitutes are in this line for one reason: greed. There are women who would rather stay poor and able to eat just a meal a day than to sell her body, and there are those who rather starve to death as well. "Feeding the family" is a repetitive and unconvincing excuse for what they are doing. It doesn't only apply to Batam but everywhere. Of course there are exceptions, but like I said, they are exceptions.

Remember, it always take two hands to clap. So please stop lambasting at us "Singaporeans" for turning Batam into a sin island. FYI, if you think I'm just making excuses for myself, I have never been to Batam and I am no longer doing commercial sex.


most of these gals comes from poor families back their kampongs
some got deals here to repay debts
some were trick or maybe an excuse to work here
i think use trick as to cover their pride
they are humans too
what they earn and living standard here is much much more and better back
at their hometown
though they hate being touch by strangers for money sake
they soon learn or accept for what they are
after years of that kind of living
they are stucked
if they go back to their homeland
they will missed the high living standard in batam
though they missed their families back home when they are in batam
thats why you can see most of them went back and return very soon

newyorker88
10-09-2004, 11:56 PM
But .... I understand that the other major Indo cities such as Jkt and Surabaya are similarly infested with KTV joints, fuck shops and other form of illicit activities - even more extreme than Batam ....

What are you gonna do? .... :eek:

DNAT, I agree with you. I been to Jakarta, and other cities in Indo land. I seen and done some of the worst I can ever imagine at those places. Batam Hater.. If you think BAtam is bad, wait until you travel to more places around the world and you will understand that Batam is "soft" compared to what you see in other places.

Batam is a place where many people come to work, be it in wat ever trade. All of them are them to make $$$. Not to mention that 70% of the industries set up there are co-owned by the Singaporeans, Japanese and other nationalities. Seriously, many ceweks are there for the $, so are the people there investing in industries.

Back to the cewek issues. Kamu mau tong kat? Bisa. Wang jukop.
Want to fuck? $$$ enough ok. As for the ah peks and uncles who go there to spend on the gals there. Wat is wrong on that? Dont tell me u dont fantasies abt woman? Even when u masterbate? U think of guys? Give me a break. Get a normal life. Man need woman, and so do woman need man. It is a yin and yang principle. Both are attracted to each other. Normal of nature.

If you had a bad experience in Batam, you can always write it out here, what happened. I am sure many brothers will appricate your efforts on what happen and avoid that. We are here to contribute, not to quarrel. And to share.
Good day.

newyorker88
11-09-2004, 12:04 AM
It is reported that a conservative estimate of 600 Sillypore men flock to Batam on every weekend, lets round it up to 1,000 for the entire week Amnesty International - receives large sums of donations from generous individual/corporate donors annually

Batam ceweks - receive Rp ? from ??? - Rupiahs fall from sky ya?


I guess the figure is much higher than 1000 per week.....based on my own observation.

Not to forget those old woman who frequent there for casinos. Believe me, woman are more casino savy than us guys, especially the old woman. If you dont believe, just open your eyes and watch.


So we are actually helping their economy.

TheUnforgiven
11-09-2004, 10:55 PM
most of these gals comes from poor families back their kampongs
some got deals here to repay debts
some were trick or maybe an excuse to work here
i think use trick as to cover their pride
they are humans too
what they earn and living standard here is much much more and better back
at their hometown
though they hate being touch by strangers for money sake
they soon learn or accept for what they are
after years of that kind of living
they are stucked
if they go back to their homeland
they will missed the high living standard in batam
though they missed their families back home when they are in batam
thats why you can see most of them went back and return very soon

With all due respect to you, please explain to me why the other side of poverty, that is those girls who choose to remain in their villages not go work in that line. There is no excuse for working as a prostitute. Wanting easy money is wanting easy money, the truth is as good as it gets.

siamcutey
11-09-2004, 11:52 PM
With all due respect to you, please explain to me why the other side of poverty, that is those girls who choose to remain in their villages not go work in that line. There is no excuse for working as a prostitute. Wanting easy money is wanting easy money, the truth is as good as it gets.

BACK!!!! :D

hahaha
SC

Libra
12-09-2004, 12:33 AM
knn.....let me add back for u

HAHaaa... thank you so much... BTW/// how do I add repute points for others?

sassina2
12-09-2004, 10:18 AM
THE TRUTH ABOUT BATAM

1) Its only a 60 minutes ride away and very convenient,

2) Everyone is welcome be they "ah peks", "ah sohs", "aunties", "all colours of skins", "rich or poor", tourists, gamblers, shoppers, f*&%&rs, - all, everyone is welcome!

3) While there are some ladies of other nationalities to cater for the odd taste buds, the major ladies available are "ceweks" - those LBFMs (little brown fucking machines) they are an acquired taste; not everyone's cup of tea but, once you're into it, theres no stopping your prick thinking for you.

4) The girls are affordable and so are the hotels, the food and other services so long as you take the trouble not to behave like silly idiots out to get ripped off.

5) Like many border towns, Batam is rather "scrappy" and not "neat and clean" like the homeland of Sillypore. So, don't expect that or, you are better off staying at home sucking your thumb and masturbating.

6) Being in Indonesia, most of the ceweks speak Indonesian. However, money motivates and they learn Singapore language very quickly. Don't be surprised to hear the ladies say "cho kang", "wah lan", "chee bye", "wah lau" etc . Unfortunately, we "ah peks" tend to use this kind of language and they learn from us.

7) All the discos play trance type music and the patrons tend to get into ubat (estacy) and other drugs. But, you need not be the fool to join them and then get arrested when you come back to Sillypore. They can take their ubat and you can drink yourself silly and still have a good time.

8) Gambling is gambling whether it is legal or illegal. If its illegal, you support private enterprise and if its legal, you make "some" more powerful so they can also pay themselves more and talk louder and louder and claim more credit for being so smart. Corruption of power is no different if not worse.

9) In Batam, they really appreciate your patronage and business and almost kiss your arse for being there. I love my arse being kissed even if I am not gay!

10) Almost every Indonesian girl whether working lady or otherwise is hospitable and friendly and if you ask, you will get a decent positive response. If a girl has a HP, you are almost always able to get her number and possibly a date and into her pants! Its great for the ego and I love to massage my ego as often as possible and in the process, have my prick massaged too.

In the worst case, you go into the disco and the ladies will pick you up (even if you are ah pek like me) and, you get to choose who you want without going bankrupt. Never can you get half the fun in Sillypore at those prices!

11) It costs a small fortune to exist in Sillypore even if you are not doing much. You save yourself a bomb just by leaving Sillypore and going to another cheaper place and Batam happens to be the most convenient for the poor folks like me.

12) The business of sex, gambling, entertainment, tourism - all sorts of business is ORGANISED and CONTROLLED whether its in Batam or Sillypore. In Sillypore, the major business is in the hands of the government and the government is run by the ................. In Batam, its in the hands of private enterprise and those with the gumption and are smart and quick off their feet. I never envy or criticse such people because given an opportunity, I would do my own thing too. In Sillypore, where go chance?

Better, in Batam, you have many choices - you can choose which casino gives you better service and decide if they deserve your money. If you in Sillypore, and you are "ah pek", (like me) "ah soh" or auntie, they won't allow you to go inside.

Only the likes of the upper crass like batamhater will be admited.

I LOVE BATAM and much of Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and Phillipines and man other places. Sillypore, no choice, I was born here!

JOGK
12-09-2004, 02:01 PM
With all due respect to you, please explain to me why the other side of poverty, that is those girls who choose to remain in their villages not go work in that line. There is no excuse for working as a prostitute. Wanting easy money is wanting easy money, the truth is as good as it gets.

those lucky ones stay in their villages because....
their parents still can manage
they havent got cheated
those unlucky ones.......
their heavily debted parents choose one or two for sacrifices
they got cheated by their boy friends
they got children by their former husbands
there are many other reasons

TheUnforgiven
12-09-2004, 03:30 PM
BACK!!!! :D

hahaha
SC


for now :)

TheUnforgiven
12-09-2004, 03:33 PM
those lucky ones stay in their villages because....
their parents still can manage
they havent got cheated
those unlucky ones.......
their heavily debted parents choose one or two for sacrifices
they got cheated by their boy friends
they got children by their former husbands
there are many other reasons

those cases as I mentioned in my earlier post are exceptions. surely you are not telling me you believe each and everyone of their sob stories?

DNAT
13-09-2004, 10:44 AM
most of these gals comes from poor families back their kampongs
some got deals here to repay debts
some were trick or maybe an excuse to work here
i think use trick as to cover their pride
they are humans too
what they earn and living standard here is much much more and better back
at their hometown
though they hate being touch by strangers for money sake
they soon learn or accept for what they are
after years of that kind of living
they are stucked
if they go back to their homeland
they will missed the high living standard in batam
though they missed their families back home when they are in batam
thats why you can see most of them went back and return very soon
Good info and analysis ....
J, perhaps you forgot to mention that Batam is regarded by many Indo gals across the nation as a land of opportunities. Many gals have arrive Batam not only to seek money but more importantly hope to marry to a guy so as to begin a better life in another land.

Previously, I booked a cewek from Mega KTV and months later went to look for her again. The mami said: "Maria huh? kay ker SinkarPo liao loh ..."

Recently, I met up with a regular FL from Batam in which she called me to inform me that she had arrived in Sg. During our short meet, she started to propose to ask me to marry her claiming that she could cook and do house chores for me. When I told her that I still wanna cheong Batam, she claimed that she would allow me to go. When asked won't she feel jealous? she explained: "I don't think about you going to flirt with other gal; just think as you go Batam to drink/tour ..." Will you buy that? :eek:

DNAT
13-09-2004, 11:03 AM
DNAT, I agree with you. I been to Jakarta, and other cities in Indo land. I seen and done some of the worst I can ever imagine at those places. Batam Hater..

Dont tell me u dont fantasies abt woman? Even when u masterbate? U think of guys? Give me a break. Get a normal life.

If you had a bad experience in Batam, you can always write it out here, what happened. I am sure many brothers will appricate your efforts on what happen and avoid that.
NYK88:
1. Where are your weirdo doing FRs? :D
2. "Women .... always on a man's mind" - Sigmund Freud
3. He already clearly stated that Sillyporeans turn Batam into a bad place ... didn't he?

DNAT
13-09-2004, 11:41 AM
There is no excuse for working as a prostitute. Wanting easy money is wanting easy money, the truth is as good as it gets.
Looking at Indo's unemployment rate and average annual income per capita, the statistical figures explain why so many gals opt to join the flesh trade. The drastic unequal distribution of income still exists despite many international monetary aids have been given.

Also, its sad to say some chinese family even want to marry their daugthers out of the country (within weeks) during the political unrest few years back.

Not that these ceweks are earning our bonking fees to build a bungalow or to purchase a new automobile in their home land (although some might which is relatively rare). They are merely trying to make their ends of basic necessities meet (eg. food, shelter, clothes) - the lowest level on the Hierarchy of Needs by Maslow's.

Given the frequent/dramatic political instabilities and sluggish economic performance despite its abundant natural resources, it is no wonder many gals flock to Batam to seek a 'easier' life.

JOGK
13-09-2004, 01:43 PM
those cases as I mentioned in my earlier post are exceptions. surely you are not telling me you believe each and everyone of their sob stories?

well
mine is divorced and had one child
i dont think she need to bluff me

JOGK
13-09-2004, 01:45 PM
Looking at Indo's unemployment rate and average annual income per capita, the statistical figures explain why so many gals opt to join the flesh trade. The drastic unequal distribution of income still exists despite many international monetary aids have been given.

Also, its sad to say some chinese family even want to marry their daugthers out of the country (within weeks) during the political unrest few years back.

Not that these ceweks are earning our bonking fees to build a bungalow or to purchase a new automobile in their home land (although some might which is relatively rare). They are merely trying to make their ends of basic necessities meet (eg. food, shelter, clothes) - the lowest level on the Hierarchy of Needs by Maslow's.

Given the frequent/dramatic political instabilities and sluggish economic performance despite its abundant natural resources, it is no wonder many gals flock to Batam to seek a 'easier' life.



actually if you believe history
most countries are the same
thailand is one of them

JOGK
13-09-2004, 01:48 PM
Good info and analysis ....
J, perhaps you forgot to mention that Batam is regarded by many Indo gals across the nation as a land of opportunities. Many gals have arrive Batam not only to seek money but more importantly hope to marry to a guy so as to begin a better life in another land.

Previously, I booked a cewek from Mega KTV and months later went to look for her again. The mami said: "Maria huh? kay ker SinkarPo liao loh ..."

Recently, I met up with a regular FL from Batam in which she called me to inform me that she had arrived in Sg. During our short meet, she started to propose to ask me to marry her claiming that she could cook and do house chores for me. When I told her that I still wanna cheong Batam, she claimed that she would allow me to go. When asked won't she feel jealous? she explained: "I don't think about you going to flirt with other gal; just think as you go Batam to drink/tour ..." Will you buy that? :eek:


she will not worry about your activities once you married her
because when she get her PR
she can always ditch you and find another one here easily

DNAT
13-09-2004, 01:59 PM
she will not worry about your activities once you married her
because when she get her PR
she can always ditch you and find another one here easily
If PR is by virtue of marriage, I also can divorce her and immigrasi will tell her to 'balek Batam' :D

DNAT
13-09-2004, 02:06 PM
actually if you believe history
most countries are the same
thailand is one of them
The Philipines also .... :o
Laos /Cambodia /Vietnam ....

I am glad to be in Sg land :)

JOGK
13-09-2004, 03:14 PM
If PR is by virtue of marriage, I also can divorce her and immigrasi will tell her to 'balek Batam' :D


in this case i think you cant
because you said you still go batam and cheong
she got a case against you

DNAT
13-09-2004, 03:27 PM
in this case i think you cant
because you said you still go batam and cheong
she got a case against you
before I reply, make sure I dun off topic .... hehe

case your head lah ...
No courtroom in this world will use those stamps in your passport as 'evidence of adultry' :D
go Batam = ? .... your spouse need to furnish evidence (photos) to prove to the court that you have affair with another women. Thats why PIs fees are high.

Moreover, one can always claim that go Batam is to
- visit frens
- gamble
- eat seafood
- buy salted fish and kueh lepis :p

FYI, PR is not granted on permanent/life-time basis. It can be revoked under certain circumstances.

JOGK
13-09-2004, 04:14 PM
before I reply, make sure I dun off topic .... hehe

case your head lah ...
No courtroom in this world will use those stamps in your passport as 'evidence of adultry'
go Batam = ? .... your spouse need to furnish evidence (photos) to prove to the court that you have affair with another women. Thats why PIs fees are high.

Moreover, one can always claim that go Batam is to
- visit frens
- gamble
- eat seafood
- buy salted fish and kueh lepis :p

FYI, PR is not granted on permanent/life-time basis. It can be revoked under certain circumstances.


well i can be her pi
i got all the equipment and help from batam to do that
most importantly i got the time also
ok back to batam topic
how? this weekend ai mai?
dont talk so big :rolleyes:

DNAT
13-09-2004, 04:39 PM
how? this weekend ai mai?
dont talk so big :rolleyes:

mai .... :(

ryanlim
13-09-2004, 04:40 PM
mai .... :(

you quote the whole post for one one-liner reply!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

DNAT
13-09-2004, 04:42 PM
you quote the whole post for one one-liner reply!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
hello, dun anyhow say hor .... :mad:

ryanlim
13-09-2004, 04:47 PM
hello, dun anyhow say hor .... :mad:

nbz....like that say me anyhow say you........good meh? :rolleyes:

JOGK
13-09-2004, 04:57 PM
mai .... :(


why?
scare i kidnap you there ar?
:D

DNAT
13-09-2004, 05:04 PM
she will not worry about your activities once you married her
because when she get her PR
she can always ditch you and find another one here easily
J,
Two different kinds of scenarios might take place:

1. She might really intend to settle down for good with a guy in Sg. If so, I wouldn't mind because she is already 25 (not that young and juicy 20 y.o. which I said previously - its different) and sick and tired of working in the trade. As long as food, lodging and shelter in Sg with an allowance of S$150+ for her to send home is considered to be contend enough. Since she has been into Sg for almost 3 times per year for the last 3 years, she has a basic understanding of how hectic is life in Sg. In fact, she was once being recognised by a cab driver, who happens to go Planet, while taking cab in Sg.

2. The flip side is total failure in which she cannot tolerate my continuous 'curi ayam' stunts and the whole r/s turns sour. By then ....... :o

JOGK
13-09-2004, 05:21 PM
J,
Two different kinds of scenarios might take place:

1. She might really intend to settle down for good with a guy in Sg. If so, I wouldn't mind because she is already 25 (not that young and juicy 20 y.o. which I said previously - its different) and sick and tired of working in the trade. As long as food, lodging and shelter in Sg with an allowance of S$150+ for her to send home is considered to be contend enough. Since she has been into Sg for almost 3 times per year for the last 3 years, she has a basic understanding of how hectic is life in Sg. In fact, she was once being recognised by a cab driver, who happens to go Planet, while taking cab in Sg.

2. The flip side is total failure in which she cannot tolerate my continuous 'curi ayam' stunts and the whole r/s turns sour. By then .......


are you trying ti tell me your cewek in singapore now?
mine is 24 yrs old
dark like those normal malays indo
what i like is she dont smoke and hates discos :D

DNAT
13-09-2004, 05:26 PM
are you trying ti tell me your cewek in singapore now?

She was here last Wed - Fri .... spent a nite on last Thur with her (S$100 for O/N) .... talked until I fell asleep :o

check your PM lah :rolleyes:

apui
13-09-2004, 05:45 PM
think threadstarter got very very bad experience in btm...
kanna chialat chialat by some cewek lah...
thats why so sour.... :D

best is whole sg ahbengs ahpeks dun go...
so he can be the hero there mah...

DNAT
13-09-2004, 05:53 PM
think threadstarter got very very bad experience in btm...
kanna chialat chialat by some cewek lah...
thats why so sour.... :D

best is whole sg ahbengs ahpeks dun go...
so he can be the hero there mah...
1 fellow can fuck 2000s WL ? that takes 5.5 years to complete :cool:

JOGK
13-09-2004, 06:14 PM
She was here last Wed - Fri .... spent a nite on last Thur with her (S$100 for O/N) .... talked until I fell asleep

check your PM lah :rolleyes:


knn you must pay ar? :cool:

TheUnforgiven
13-09-2004, 09:36 PM
well
mine is divorced and had one child
i dont think she need to bluff me

Read my words carefully. I'm not talking about "yours" whoever she is. I'm referring to the general picture. And if you still want to persist in saying that not everyone of them are in the trade because of greed:

ex·cep·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-spshn)
n.
The act of excepting or the condition of being excepted; exclusion.
One that is excepted, especially a case that does not conform to a rule or generalization.
An objection or a criticism: opinions that are open to exception.
Law. A formal objection taken in the course of an action or a proceeding.

cheers

newyorker88
13-09-2004, 10:01 PM
NYK88:
1. Where are your weirdo doing FRs? :D
2. "Women .... always on a man's mind" - Sigmund Freud
3. He already clearly stated that Sillyporeans turn Batam into a bad place ... didn't he?


I done it in DIAMOND KTV, where we have mess orgies. Turn on the music and the gals are all over you. There is a bed in the KTV also. Also in Batavia hotels. U know what that place is famous for. Also, my friend ever brought me to a club, by members only, of course, there, they have mess orgies, only by invitation. Cant remember that place.
Also there are places where like tranverite bars. All guys dressed in woman clothes. Hahha. And the usage of estatcy is more frequent there too. I dont do drugs, but when u ram a gal who is high on it, u know how horny she can be. Also, u can get live fuckings. Just pay them and they fuk infront of u.
Overall, Jakarta is much more "complicated" than batam.

Freud.. He is the one abt SEX all the time, everything got to do with sex...His student Carl Jung much better....


As for this batam hater guy, I dono what he has in his mind. If he thinks singaporeans are massing up batam.. think again. Sex is essential to reproduction of human race. Both man and woman need it. Some woman do it for $$ to feed family, some for fun and some for other reasons. Man does it manily becos he wants it. and dont tell me this batam hater is does not need sex? So he consider PCC wrong also?
:confused:

DNAT
13-09-2004, 10:12 PM
Read my words carefully. I'm not talking about "yours" whoever she is. I'm referring to the general picture. And if you still want to persist in saying that not everyone of them are in the trade because of greed
cheers
Yes, I concur that not everyone of them are in the trade because of greed ... it is because of need; what ever need that might persist.... in which a true/seasoned Batam cheongster would not wish to verify its authenticity.

DNAT
13-09-2004, 10:27 PM
Overall, Jakarta is much more "complicated" than batam.

Freud.. He is the one abt SEX all the time, everything got to do with sex...His student Carl Jung much better....

As for this batam hater guy, I dono what he has in his mind. If he thinks singaporeans are massing up batam..

- you have said it out , pal. wait till the thread starter have seen how other nationality cheongsters (I heard the Ara*s are notorious on this sexual torture game) can outperform others than us messing Batam up, he will be shocked and dismay.
- Hey bro, Freud is the Father of Psychoanalysis eh ... ;)
- One ought to clean the mess if one wants to earn bucks. btw, aren't we going to have our own casino? :D lets see how are we going to clean the mess too .... hahaha

DNAT
13-09-2004, 10:32 PM
I thought he meant most are in it because of greed and the minority are in it because of need.. :confused:
Yes he meant that indeed. However, how would us clearly defines one's need and/or greed.

The earth can satisfy our needs not our greeds - to me, air-conditioning is a need but its a greed in other's perspective.

TheUnforgiven
13-09-2004, 10:37 PM
Are u saying the majority is in it because of greed, other than those excepted??

Excluding those prostitutes who have been tricked/forced/no-choice/whatever, the others would say they joined the trade because they "want a better life". Wanting a better life and selling your body as a result is greed, isn't it?

RogerChongZY
13-09-2004, 10:46 PM
Dear Samsters,
Prostitution is the world's oldest profession
Gambling is the world's second oldest profession
Chinese 4 deadly sins: Eat, Drink, Sex, Gamble all can be enjoy in Batam
Need I say more?

TheUnforgiven
13-09-2004, 11:08 PM
Some ppl are contented being a clerk, earning just 1 thousand a month. some ppl want more money so they bet on 4d, toto, do investments....is this not considered greed too?

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Clerk's salary: 5000 baht
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Selling your body: Priceless

Need I say more?

CHEEBYFACE
13-09-2004, 11:11 PM
A MasterCard commercial brought to you by TheUnforgiven

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Cashier's salary: 4000 baht
Clerk's salary: 5000 baht
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HAHAHA! Good one bro!

TheUnforgiven
14-09-2004, 07:12 AM
you just dont get it.

I "don't get it"? I was once like you, but at least I was willing to hear out different views. I'm just stating facts which you don't wish to hear. Please don't enter a discussion when all you want is everyone to agree with you :rolleyes:

DNAT
14-09-2004, 08:51 AM
A MasterCard commercial brought to you by TheUnforgiven

Bangkok
Cashier's salary: 4000 baht
Clerk's salary: 5000 baht
Programmer's salary: 10000 baht
Selling your body: Priceless

Need I say more?
Inappropriate metaphor ....
Also, Selling one's body via commercial sex for $ entails
- enormous level of risks
- high opportunity costs
- rapid depreciations

:cool:

DNAT
14-09-2004, 09:01 AM
I "don't get it"? I was once like you, but at least I was willing to hear out different views. I'm just stating facts which you don't wish to hear. Please don't enter a discussion when all you want is everyone to agree with you :rolleyes:
- Whether any ceweks in Indo lands (or WLs in BKK) work outta greed, our major concern is a happy session with them.

- We would be more delighted if you could share or expose any of your Batam adventures .... The Truth of Batam

TheUnforgiven
15-09-2004, 04:15 PM
- Whether any ceweks in Indo lands (or WLs in BKK) work outta greed, our major concern is a happy session with them.

- We would be more delighted if you could share or expose any of your Batam adventures .... The Truth of Batam

Whatever reason they enter prostitution doesn't concern me. I'm just pointing towards the fact that many men who do commercial sex always fall for their stories. I don't condemn them, it's their choice after all.

A samster once told me, show them respect because they are brave enough to enter the trade to fight for fight for their future. I give them the basic respect as a human being, but don't ask me to respect them because they are "brave enough" or "willing to sacrifice themselves" to improve their situation. Unless of course, one of them did so to raise medical bills for her dying mother/father/whatever. Then again like I said, how many of them are in that situation?

Sorry but I don't have any stories to share. I've never been to Batam and won't consider doing so. Even if I do, this is not the thread to post it in. :)

TheUnforgiven
15-09-2004, 04:26 PM
Are u saying the majority is in it because of greed, other than those excepted??

Some ppl are contented being a clerk, earning just 1 thousand a month. some ppl want more money so they bet on 4d, toto, do investments....is this not considered greed too?

you just dont get it. maybe its due to your past experience with WL.
selling their body? I would rather think of it as USING their body. And many ppl use their body in one way or another to earn money.

What you post here are merely your opinions, your views, not facts. TO you, ppl go into prostitution becasue of greed, except for the exceptions. THis is my view, you can disagree with what i have to say. I dont need ppl to agree with me.

Oh please. You enter into a discussion with me using an interrogative style question and each time when I answer you, you ask yet another one. When I hit a sensitive point, you tell me "I just don't get it", and now you "bian chao bin" (show smelly face).

In the first place, I never intended to impose my views on anyone, let alone you. If you want people to respect your right to your own views, please don't tell others that they "don't get it".

Regards

DNAT
15-09-2004, 04:34 PM
I'm just pointing towards the fact that many men who do commercial sex always fall for their stories.

I give them the basic respect as a human being, but don't ask me to respect them because they are "brave enough" or "willing to sacrifice themselves" to improve their situation.

Sorry but I don't have any stories to share. I've never been to Batam and won't consider doing so. Even if I do, this is not the thread to post it in.
You are right that many men fall for the gal's stories. So we shall watch the drama(s) which surface periodically.

I also give my basic respect to any WL as a human being but on the basis of simply buy and sell. Their 'bravery' or 'sacrifices' are not my area of interest. I would normally tell them as what is in my Signature --- This is Life!

Just an info: bro meatlover has acquired the adequate knowledge/'expertise' to lead cheonging trip to Batam .... no joke eh. :)

AhBengKeong
15-09-2004, 06:40 PM
You are right that many men fall for the gal's stories. So we shall watch the drama(s) which surface periodically.

I also give my basic respect to any WL as a human being but on the basis of simply buy and sell. Their 'bravery' or 'sacrifices' are not my area of interest. I would normally tell them as what is in my Signature --- This is Life!

Just an info: bro meatlover has acquired the adequate knowledge/'expertise' to lead cheonging trip to Batam .... no joke eh. :)

so when can meatlover lead me on a trip to batam walk walk?

DNAT
15-09-2004, 07:39 PM
so when can meatlover lead me on a trip to batam walk walk?
knn, you 'graduated' from the Batam Basics 101 course earlier than meatlover lah :D wait meatlover lead you to Nongsa then you know :rolleyes:

DNAT
15-09-2004, 07:42 PM
okok u win.

Dont want to have a 'Ultimate Bastard' with u (read: a fucking waste of time) .

PS: Pls dont talk like u know alot.

wow ... :eek:

AhBengKeong
15-09-2004, 08:02 PM
knn, you 'graduated' from the Batam Basics 101 course earlier than meatlover lah :D wait meatlover lead you to Nongsa then you know :rolleyes:

if nongsa got happening places, i dun mind going....but frankly, i really lost touch with indo....

cheongseeker
15-09-2004, 08:08 PM
if nongsa got happening places, i dun mind going....but frankly, i really lost touch with indo....


Nongsa got happening?????? What happening?? I oso wan leh.... ;)

TheUnforgiven
15-09-2004, 08:18 PM
okok u win.

Dont want to have a 'Ultimate Bastard' with u (read: a fucking waste of time) .

PS: Pls dont talk like u know alot.

Lol nice show of temper. If you

1.) can't take the heat, don't pose sacarstic questions or impolite remarks to others in future.

2.) think that I'm so concerned about winning - it's just a habit that I have, against rude people like you.

3.) think that it's a fucking waste of time, you shouldn't have replied to me in the first place.

4.) think that digging into the "Ultimate Bastard" thread hits my raw nerve, you are mistaken. It only exhibits your example of not being a gentleman.

You have no respect for people's opinions. You believe in having your own opinion and yet question people's. And when they reply, all you can do is make dumb remarks.

Regards

TheUnforgiven
15-09-2004, 08:25 PM
Just an info: bro meatlover has acquired the adequate knowledge/'expertise' to lead cheonging trip to Batam .... no joke eh. :)

Haven't seen him in a long time. He still hanging out at the L14 area?

DNAT
15-09-2004, 08:59 PM
Haven't seen him in a long time. He still hanging out at the L14 area?
no longer at all .... he mostly tcss + lim kopi with me @ Ang Suar :)

DNAT
15-09-2004, 09:02 PM
Nongsa got happening?????? What happening?? I oso wan leh.... ;)
dun act blur lah .... thats your territory ya ... :D
bro JOGK's territory as well ....
but both are non-cheonging territory ..... hahaha

DNAT
15-09-2004, 09:04 PM
if nongsa got happening places, i dun mind going....but frankly, i really lost touch with indo....
knn ... you everything also wan 1 ....

Nongsa nothing 1 lah .... family/healthy resort setting - not suitable for you :D besides, take cab there (1 way) = 30 minutes, sit until your kar chng lih ... hahaha

MrDevil
16-09-2004, 12:15 AM
Whatever reason they enter prostitution doesn't concern me. I'm just pointing towards the fact that many men who do commercial sex always fall for their stories. I don't condemn them, it's their choice after all.

A samster once told me, show them respect because they are brave enough to enter the trade to fight for fight for their future. I give them the basic respect as a human being, but don't ask me to respect them because they are "brave enough" or "willing to sacrifice themselves" to improve their situation. Unless of course, one of them did so to raise medical bills for her dying mother/father/whatever. Then again like I said, how many of them are in that situation?

Sorry but I don't have any stories to share. I've never been to Batam and won't consider doing so. Even if I do, this is not the thread to post it in. :)

There could be truth in every lies and vice versa, it's upto each individual on how they wanted to digest and react to it. When one finger is pointing at WL, the rest of the finger is pointing back to ownself. Many WL falls for some stories men telling too.

If one putting too much guard and worries while cheonging, he is better off staying at home safely. Example : some eat to fill hunger, some enjoy eating while some having phobia eating bcos bitten his tongue. It could be the same food but each will taste differently. If one has ordered and paid, why not just enjoy the food instead of keeping reminding the pain of bitten tongue. No matter how careful, experience and immune one could be, he will still fall for one when he met his match one fine day.

I respect them for what they are, regardless if they are WL or not, it is just a profession that she has chosen. It may not be a decent job but better than conning and begging for money.

I dont cheong Batam too but I believe the moral, principal and logics underlying cheonging and WL world is the similiar anywhere.

cheongseeker
16-09-2004, 12:16 AM
but both are non-cheonging territory ..... hahaha

Who say non-cheonging territory. Got cheong seafood mah. Bo meh??

If u r into doing it in the wild or open, then u can try pantia beach. Not sure my spelling correct or not. At nite super dark. Even more dark then pacific.

Dare or not!!!!


:eek:

DNAT
16-09-2004, 12:30 AM
Who say non-cheonging territory. Got cheong seafood mah. Bo meh??

If u r into doing it in the wild or open, then u can try pantia beach. Not sure my spelling correct or not. At nite super dark. Even more dark then pacific.

Dare or not!!!!



Cheong seafood at Nongsa ?? seow meh .... cheong burgers at NED better, can munch burgers and beo targets .. haha


If u r into doing it in the wild or open, then u can try pantia beach. Not sure my spelling correct or not. At nite super dark. Even more dark then pacific.
=== is this another kind of hidden truth of Batam? hehe

dun wan lah, I want beach foam party :D

DNAT
16-09-2004, 12:40 AM
No matter how careful, experience and immune one could be, he will still fall for one when he met his match one fine day.


Haizzz ... no wonder I 'tio-cheng' (hokkien; means kena hit) from time to time ... :( duno got antidotes to cure once and forever ?

cheongseeker
16-09-2004, 12:43 AM
dun wan lah, I want beach foam party :D


Ho, u mention the magic word, later bro ratcool will come in n jio u 2 b organiser.

Ai mai? Then u can hv mass orgy w nature liao.

DNAT
16-09-2004, 12:58 AM
Ho, u mention the magic word, later bro ratcool will come in n jio u 2 b organiser.

Ai mai? Then u can hv mass orgy w nature liao.
:o minimum set up = S$5k ...

we collaborate /co-ordinate lah, jio 100 pax enough liao = each pays S$50 :)

cheongseeker
16-09-2004, 01:03 AM
we collaborate /co-ordinate lah, jio 100 pax enough liao = each pays S$50 :)

Hoi, jio bro BinBin lah. Give him lobang 4 organising big party 4 100 bros "SDU" party. He oso get d cha bor. Use d foam 2 break d ice. U n me b co-ordinators lah. Bro ratcool organiser 4 d foam party n venue, hotel rooms, makans, entertainment...mm.....

Not bad hor. :rolleyes:

MrDevil
16-09-2004, 01:24 AM
Haizzz ... no wonder I 'tio-cheng' (hokkien; means kena hit) from time to time ... :( duno got antidotes to cure once and forever ?

thats part and parcel of cheonging. I would rather tio-cheng once awhile than cheonging emotionaless, bonking for the sake of bonking. It's like eating for the sake of filling hunger.

DNAT
16-09-2004, 01:32 AM
Hoi, jio bro BinBin lah. Give him lobang 4 organising big party 4 100 bros "SDU" party. He oso get d cha bor. Use d foam 2 break d ice. U n me b co-ordinators lah. Bro ratcool organiser 4 d foam party n venue, hotel rooms, makans, entertainment...mm.....

Not bad hor. :rolleyes:
knn, you always say say only, everytime push the things to me, ask me to go enquire :( then you sit down there shake leg 1 ...

if not enough 100 pax, you 'tiap' the remaining difference har?

*yawn* .... let me lie down and sought advices from 'zhou gong' and discuss a feasibility study with him 1st.

cheongseeker
16-09-2004, 01:38 AM
knn, you always say say only, everytime push the things to me, ask me to go enquire :( then you sit down there shake leg 1 ...

I provide u w ideas mah. If not how u ever going 2 fulfill d requirement of getting 100 pple leh??

JOGK
16-09-2004, 02:00 AM
dun act blur lah .... thats your territory ya ... :D
bro JOGK's territory as well ....
but both are non-cheonging territory ..... hahaha


Oei! Oei!
did i hear someone mention my name? :rolleyes:

DNAT
16-09-2004, 09:36 AM
Oei! Oei!
did i hear someone mention my name? :rolleyes:
I intro bro cheongseeker to you lah, then both of you can go Nongsa area together, - you 2 sure very click 1 :D

JOGK
16-09-2004, 01:48 PM
I intro bro cheongseeker to you lah, then both of you can go Nongsa area together, - you 2 sure very click 1


i cannot chiong at nongsa lah
you want me to die is it? :eek:
i only at chiong at nagoya :(

DNAT
16-09-2004, 01:58 PM
i cannot chiong at nongsa lah
you want me to die is it?
i only at chiong at nagoya :(
since when I asked you to go Nongsa to cheong?
that fella cheongseeker also cannot cheong in Nongsa 1, he goes there on serious matters ... hehe
so gum lor, both of you go Nongsa for serious matters ...
(I where got sabo you 1) :)

JOGK
17-09-2004, 12:03 AM
since when I asked you to go Nongsa to cheong?
that fella cheongseeker also cannot cheong in Nongsa 1, he goes there on serious matters ... hehe
so gum lor, both of you go Nongsa for serious matters ...
(I where got sabo you 1) :)


then what he do there?

DNAT
17-09-2004, 11:35 AM
then what he do there?
He cheong the seafood there :D

vaxvms
17-09-2004, 03:16 PM
He cheong the seafood there :D

ya last time my cewek brought me to a kelong makan seafood
cheap and good man!!!
but me dun know whr
taxi must pass by a super dark stretch of road than reach a big villa

u know?

DNAT
17-09-2004, 03:55 PM
ya last time my cewek brought me to a kelong makan seafood
cheap and good man!!!
but me dun know whr
taxi must pass by a super dark stretch of road than reach a big villa

u know?

:rolleyes: wow lau, you describe until like that, nobody knows ... kekeke.

dun worry lah, we eat at Ah O with CK 1st (duno that WPP wanna join also? I still owe him the 'untouchable' stories .... hehehe).

vaxvms
17-09-2004, 03:56 PM
:rolleyes: wow lau, you describe until like that, nobody knows ... kekeke.

dun worry lah, we eat at Ah O with CK 1st (duno that WPP wanna join also? I still owe him the 'untouchable' stories .... hehehe).

okok WPP no come u also must shari merrie 'untouchable' stories" to me and CK

newyorker88
19-09-2004, 02:55 AM
ya last time my cewek brought me to a kelong makan seafood
cheap and good man!!!
but me dun know whr
taxi must pass by a super dark stretch of road than reach a big villa

u know?


U refering to Batu Besar? A lot of parking place? Or the one after going up a Hill top and down from Batu Ampar?

TheUnforgiven
19-09-2004, 02:56 PM
I didnt hit your raw nerve? is it? Again, condeming ppl is what you know how to do best. Just take the Ultimate bastard thread for example. Who cant take the heat and showing his temper here? SHowing such great reaction to the words "u dont get it"???

By posting the Ultimate bastard thread show what a great GENTLEMAN you are. :rolleyes:

I was thinking of how to reply your post, and then I realised there was no reason to because you are making no sense. I'm taking my leave. Go ahead and rant all you want. :)

Cheers

PS. I thought you said I win? Why bother to reply? Hahaha.

DNAT
20-09-2004, 09:49 AM
If all WLs plunge into the flesh trade is due to greed, So C******k didn't buy the WL's story = correct lor cos he beholds the belief that the gal is going after his $ ... :confused:

- Just a logical deduction based on basic hypothesis :) ie. 'All WLs are just greedy for money.'

DNAT
20-09-2004, 09:53 AM
Heard that the "ultimate bastard" C*****k is spotted in Bangkok. Must jio him lim kopi and interview him. Listen to his side of the story and find out the latest developements.

Bro C*****k please PM me lah. Whiskey on me. No problem. ;)

Siamboy, you know C******k also meh? :D

Like that then I jio C******k to treat him Louise 13 also can lah (given that his liquor consumption behaviour has not been changed) ... wahahaha

vaxvms
20-09-2004, 11:40 AM
U refering to Batu Besar? A lot of parking place? Or the one after going up a Hill top and down from Batu Ampar?

car park quite big
entrance pick ur seafood than proceed to sit
place farking big buy not many customers
anyway me NEWBIES in BT
nvm lah next time if go agfain i ask the cewek

cheongseeker
20-09-2004, 05:33 PM
car park quite big
entrance pick ur seafood than proceed to sit
place farking big buy not many customers
anyway me NEWBIES in BT
nvm lah next time if go agfain i ask the cewek


Both plc abt d same in surrounding scenary. Next time u r there check out if there is any sign board.

DNAT
20-09-2004, 05:37 PM
Both plc abt d same in surrounding scenary. Next time u r there check out if there is any sign board.
thats rite .... most famous sea food eating place all about the same settings 1 (eg. Batu Besar, Golden Prawn 555 etc .... even the Barelang side also :rolleyes: ) thats why I say I really duno ... hehe

cheongseeker
20-09-2004, 05:45 PM
thats rite .... most famous sea food eating place all about the same settings 1 (eg. Batu Besar, Golden Prawn 555 etc .... even the Barelang side also ) thats why I say I really duno ... hehe


Got ask u meh?? :mad: U super old bird how can u not know. If dunoe can still say all those names.....

U beri free hor. :(

DNAT
20-09-2004, 05:48 PM
Got ask u meh?? :mad: U super old bird how can u not know. If dunoe can still say all those names.....


CB lah ... dunsay I never jio u hor .... Nov got BTTC meet ... I got count your share ... ai join mai ? ;) all the lau teochews meet ... lai lah ...

cheongseeker
20-09-2004, 05:51 PM
CB lah ... dunsay I never jio u hor .... Nov got BTTC meet ... I got count your share ... ai join mai ? ;) all the lau teochews meet ... lai lah ...


Can lah. Jus gv date lor but I can last min CMI leh....hehehe.... :rolleyes:

DNAT
20-09-2004, 05:53 PM
Can lah. Jus gv date lor but I can last min CMI leh....hehehe.... :rolleyes:
Nov 26 ...
knn, your CMI = can make it or cannot make it ? :mad:

cheongseeker
20-09-2004, 06:04 PM
Nov 26 ...
knn, your CMI = can make it or cannot make it ? :mad:


My CMI stands for both mah. So won't kena chak by u mah.. :D

DNAT
20-09-2004, 06:06 PM
My CMI stands for both mah. So won't kena chak by u mah.. :D
like that har ... you go and tell Batam Man lor :rolleyes:

cheongseeker
20-09-2004, 06:10 PM
like that har ... you go and tell Batam Man lor :rolleyes:

Hoi u dun like dat hor. I meet BM onli 1 x leh. Dun spoilt d image dat he hs of me leh. Later bcome like u, onli can go his house n sit w his dog. ;)

Batam Man
20-09-2004, 09:44 PM
like that har ... you go and tell Batam Man lor :rolleyes:





Borrow knife kill people again?

Batam Man
20-09-2004, 09:49 PM
Hoi u dun like dat hor. I meet BM onli 1 x leh. Dun spoilt d image dat he hs of me leh. Later bcome like u, onli can go his house n sit w his dog. ;)



Sit with my dog beri sia sway you meh? :(

You also want to borrow my knife huh??

DNAT
21-09-2004, 09:21 AM
Sit with my dog beri sia sway you meh? :(

You also want to borrow my knife huh??
your dog beri lazy .... :D

Batam Man
21-09-2004, 11:15 AM
your dog beri lazy .... :D




My dog lazy also your problem? :confused:

DNAT
21-09-2004, 11:46 AM
My dog lazy also your problem? :confused:

you asked: Sit with my dog beri sia sway you meh?

see .... if your dog is lazy, then when cheongseeker sits with your dog and so happen that you point at your dog and shout: "you lazy dog!" then other ppl thought you are scolding cheongseeker ... understand? :)

Batam Man
21-09-2004, 12:04 PM
you asked: Sit with my dog beri sia sway you meh?

see .... if your dog is lazy, then when cheongseeker sits with your dog and so happen that you point at your dog and shout: "you lazy dog!" then other ppl thought you are scolding cheongseeker ... understand? :)


I understand 1 very important thing = you are borrowing my knife again... :rolleyes:

Pest
21-09-2004, 12:16 PM
wahlau,eh.....so long out of this forum,now it becomes a slanging match ups...
I thought this thread is about the truth about Batam........now it's about the truth about BM's dog,Brown....

I think it's about time for the emergence of yati to spice things up.... :D

DNAT
21-09-2004, 12:22 PM
wahlau,eh.....so long out of this forum,now it becomes a slanging match ups...
I thought this thread is about the truth about Batam........now it's about the truth about BM's dog,Brown....

I think it's about time for the emergence of yati to spice things up.... :D
Yati travels 2 hours from Mayang Sari down south to Club 5 on Sat evening during her off day? :rolleyes:

(info: Club 5 tuka nama udah ke 'Exposed')

Pest
21-09-2004, 12:31 PM
Latest news....yati is now no more in TP.She's working in Batam now....
She'll be in this forum soon...

DNAT
21-09-2004, 04:38 PM
I understand 1 very important thing = you are borrowing my knife again... :rolleyes:
you got knife meh? you only got Arrow =====>>> ;)

Batam Man
21-09-2004, 04:56 PM
you got knife meh? you only got Arrow =====>>> ;)



And my arrow got auto pilot wan, will always aim at you!!!

DNAT
21-09-2004, 05:09 PM
And my arrow got auto pilot wan, will always aim at you!!!The Truth About Batam man
:o

Batam Man
21-09-2004, 05:46 PM
The Truth About Batam man
:o



You like say me good meh? :(

cheongseeker
21-09-2004, 06:01 PM
You like say me good meh? :(

He feels uneasy if u dun chak or scold him. Dat's y he like 2 say u mah. So dat u will scold him or chak him lor. Then he will be happy lor. :p

Batam Man
21-09-2004, 06:13 PM
He feels uneasy if u dun chak or scold him. Dat's y he like 2 say u mah. So dat u will scold him or chak him lor. Then he will be happy lor. :p



You sure learn very fast man...
Your borrow knife kill people stunt is almost perfect liao :rolleyes:

cheongseeker
21-09-2004, 06:15 PM
You sure learn very fast man...
Your borrow knife kill people stunt is almost perfect liao :rolleyes:

hehehe...cause I learn frm d best lor. :p