[NobleEagle]

Originally Posted by lost99

Not a straight forward comparison, as they are different playgrounds and offer different experiences and value...

In Jakarta, it can take you up to 2 hours to travel from the North to the South in rush hours, so it is important to pick your hotel location accordingly, and plan your logistics around traffic jam hours.

In spite of the the downside to Jakarta, I still prefer it over Bangkok because of the variety of fun to be had, the choice of cheaper options.

Originally Posted by lost99

JTKA = driving manual transmission: more fun, better performance, and cheaper to operate!

im currently looking to explore JKT and curious of a few comments, hope if you guys could advise me as well?

Diff. playgrounds & experiences you guys are referring to BKK's barbeers, agogo clubs, soapy/kapoo spas, gclubs & discos with FLs...comparing to JKT's one stop shop entertainment complexes with spa/massage/ktv/discos under 1 roof, mblok bule barbeer joints, little Tokyo's ktvs and discos with fls like cjs, bat, golden crown? But apart from the one stop shop the rest are slight almost similar playing style or there are other type of cheonging joints i missed out?

For the hotels in JKT, is it safe to stay in 2~3 stars hotels around Gajah Mada/Jalan Hayam Wuruk or better to stay only in 4~5 stars hotels only?

When you guys mean value for money and some even undervalued stocks...do you mean those FLs in some discos or those dancers that comes to you for LDs and the value is inclusive of all the LDs & ST total adds up comparing against BKK gclubs membership 10~20K baht prices or Agogo club LT plus some LDs at 5k~6k baht prices in total?

Even if just ST/LT prices...if JKT might be cheaper compared to BKK, but will those LDs aggressive JKT dancers that keeps pushing you for 1~2 rounds of 5 shots each round...wont it end up costing even more at the end of the day total up?