chiongsters, what made you stop?

[HonkyTonkyMan]

Originally Posted by kennese2006

what's the city gate story?

It in the news Ah Tiong Bu murdered this local guy who had been supporting her financially here..

[superstiffy]

money face ML

when the mood come and want to play liao then e brake to discuss money... already spoil mood liao then some more need to listen to whole menu of prices lagi sian... and then have to bargain price...

knn better just change and go home pcc suah... all the mood gone liao...

[taumajid2003]

Originally Posted by superstiffy

money face ML

when the mood come and want to play liao then e brake to discuss money... already spoil mood liao then some more need to listen to whole menu of prices lagi sian... and then have to bargain price...

knn better just change and go home pcc suah... all the mood gone liao...

Totally agreed

[blitzkriegg]

1) excitement wears off over time.

2) even disregarding the disappearing novelty, objectively services have fallen off a cliff. Have not met any ML since the pandemic started that are willing to learn how to tease and excite and actually do it.

3) MLs are asking for more and more ridiculous amounts for the very basic of services and add ons.

Inflation and poor service in SG across the entire economy happens because people here give in to rising prices too easily while not holding service providers to the standards that the prices demand. People need to learn to walk away and push back when prices increase but service quality is falling. Try the quality of services in other east asian cities - Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai and you will realize how poor the service standards here are for the prices we are paying. Once you've understood that, refusing becomes easier.

[taumajid2003]

Originally Posted by blitzkriegg

1) excitement wears off over time.

2) even disregarding the disappearing novelty, objectively services have fallen off a cliff. Have not met any ML since the pandemic started that are willing to learn how to tease and excite and actually do it.

3) MLs are asking for more and more ridiculous amounts for the very basic of services and add ons.

Inflation and poor service in SG across the entire economy happens because people here give in to rising prices too easily while not holding service providers to the standards that the prices demand. People need to learn to walk away and push back when prices increase but service quality is falling. Try the quality of services in other east asian cities - Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai and you will realize how poor the service standards here are for the prices we are paying. Once you've understood that, refusing becomes easier.

I totally agreed with what you mentioned here !

[KangTuo]

once a chiongster always a chiongster. no such thing as totally stopped. Some chiongster say they stopped but in really may just be hibenating.

$$$ and time may be the 2 factors that make a chiongster cut back on chionging too much.

to totally stop chionging, is when one pass on

[SoftRiceKing]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

once a chiongster always a chiongster. no such thing as totally stopped. Some chiongster say they stopped but in really may just be hibenating.

$$$ and time may be the 2 factors that make a chiongster cut back on chionging too much.

to totally stop chionging, is when one pass on

Well said bro! Another factor maybe army generation speed slows down, perhaps.

[ticklemefancy]

Originally Posted by blitzkriegg

1) excitement wears off over time.

2) even disregarding the disappearing novelty, objectively services have fallen off a cliff. Have not met any ML since the pandemic started that are willing to learn how to tease and excite and actually do it.

3) MLs are asking for more and more ridiculous amounts for the very basic of services and add ons.

Inflation and poor service in SG across the entire economy happens because people here give in to rising prices too easily while not holding service providers to the standards that the prices demand. People need to learn to walk away and push back when prices increase but service quality is falling. Try the quality of services in other east asian cities - Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai and you will realize how poor the service standards here are for the prices we are paying. Once you've understood that, refusing becomes easier.

Shanghai still can play? Share Share leh bro haha. I heard now quite tough already

[MyOpinion]

Originally Posted by Kovanboy

No more money plus no more excitement

Yeah 😅 agree

[dtan90]

Generally is the fact that there is a big imbalance between what we provide and what they provide - and I feel we are more honest and sincere than many ML. They are here to make money and we understand that - but no reason to often lie to get more tips etc.. it is very tiring to be seen as a walking wallet.

[vantage]

Originally Posted by dtan90

Generally is the fact that there is a big imbalance between what we provide and what they provide - and I feel we are more honest and sincere than many ML. They are here to make money and we understand that - but no reason to often lie to get more tips etc.. it is very tiring to be seen as a walking wallet.

Think in general all the cheong joints just all have farked up biz practice. Ktv gal tok you 100 see you 10 min / hour total 40 min. Some clubs like to double charge credit card or sneaky fark you by double charge mms tip. Get bill suddenly 5 waiter come in.

Msg joint all farking professional photoshop scam. Masseuese all fail at massage and dun even bother hdly. SG cheonging is shit cos price go up and service come down. Spend money shoik, kena tok is not

[valkyrierune]

Originally Posted by Penguin23

My girl was from a KTV here, I met her while she was working and we slowly developed an understanding on what was acceptable and not acceptable in our relationship.

Around the 2-year mark, my girl made the decision (on her own accord) to quit nightlife and transition back to normal life, so she asked me for some basic support (rent in Vietnam, very cheap plus a few hundred dollars for basic living expenses) while she establishes her normal career. She got a placing in a local beauty contest and was lucky to land some small local sponsorhips, then she started her own modelling gig and made some small decent money to support herself while thinking about the next stage of career growth. We have maintained a long-distance relationship over the last 2 plus years, with the final intention of buying an apartment there jointly while I wait for my kids to grow up and leave the nest.

To answer your question directly, it is important to highlight the trajectory of events above - when I first met her I thought she was much more beautiful then the typical girl I've taken out but I only really felt a connection after maybe 6 months. In that time, I did my usual chiong routine and she did hers, but as I made that uneasy (and at times, very uncomfortable transition from customer to sugar daddy to boyfriend) I cut back on chionging and I slowly lost the urge to bed other women. For her, she slowly transitioned from full KTV (humsup type, super playable, highly competitive and high earning) to non-humsup KTV (e.g Empire, less earning power but no need to humsup) and finally to a hang flower joint and finally entertaining only the old regulars whom she slowly cut back one by one.

I signalled my seriousness in the relationship by deleting my Wechat account and I cleared all my secondary/tertiary SIM cards. I also deleted Telegram (too much temptation) and I unfriended the KTV girls/ML/Fl on Facebook. I did that on my own accord, she slowly did the same, once she has completed her independent verification that I have indeed cleaned out my socials.

Re my history - I am about double her age, so you can say that she knows I started fucking girls before she was born. KTV girls have this network through their friends and mummy(ies) where they can (more or less) check a guy's history and behaviour in KTVs so she knew who my ex gfs were and she is also independently assured that I am not maintaining or fucking any other girl outside.

So it is after all, a mutual understanding - we are both imperfect beings and we try and commit to a normal relationship, despite overwhelming odds and vastly different backgrounds. I am probably lucky in the sense that she is innately a "good person" - she is a staunch buddhist, believes in karma, and she believes that it is better to be kind than to be right. So i lucked out on this one. I also told her, that I knew about her past and I fully accept her for what she is, why she chose to work in KTV and what her life ambitions are.

So with all that slowly falling into place, I gradually stopped chionging altogether, it has been around 4 years since I bedded another girl, and I do not miss my old life. When you get older, stability and predictability in life is truly a valuable thing, unforgettable wild fucks with wild girls capable of real-life drama no longer appeals to me, so I left that life behind.

The only connection I maintain, is here on SBF - spouting rubbish on relationship/divorce/chionging topics and recalling fondly some sexciting parts about my old life, but not really wanting to step back inside.

Cheers.

Good luck man! Happy to see one success story
Was married, was attached and now single again. Trying to take a break with NSA RS.

Not sure if I want to commit to another rs despite having some ladies trying to connect more (I try not to let them have much chance because I really like being single as of now)

[kennese2006]

Originally Posted by vantage

Think in general all the cheong joints just all have farked up biz practice. Ktv gal tok you 100 see you 10 min / hour total 40 min. Some clubs like to double charge credit card or sneaky fark you by double charge mms tip. Get bill suddenly 5 waiter come in.

Msg joint all farking professional photoshop scam. Masseuese all fail at massage and dun even bother hdly. SG cheonging is shit cos price go up and service come down. Spend money shoik, kena tok is not

that photoshop thing is so true bro. but not all are bad lah, got some good ones. just need time to find. there're threads out there sharing 50-55 massage joints.

how much is reasonable to you? asking cause i'm new also. kanna squeezed at KM Spa the first time before coming here.

[Zxpd]

More like hibernation now. Now with the strong SGD, really more worth to Chiong Vietnam/Japan/ Thailand. I’ll caveat to say Thailand is kinda expensive now. Even Taiwan got good deals if u know which telegram group to hunt.

Singapore is a place to earn money to Chiong but don’t Chiong here hahaha

[MeetYourFapper]

I always opt for BJ. Then found a partner (3-4years, her body size like the influencer NoVitaLam, around like 60-70% of hers la, go out cfm see ppl stare at her)and she can suck me different patterns ( she kneeling down, 69, me sitting on her boobs, she lying down while I am hovering above and thrusting her mouth like missionary style -> love this the most ), can action for 15-30mins till I cum all in her mouth. Always when I started to cum she will either suck violently or try her best to Deepthroat. She don’t really Deepthroat well but when I start to jizz I will force all into her throat and she will ‘tahan’ for like 5s before retreating and gagging hard with my D throbbing in her mouth. I asked her how you master all these, she said through porn

Even after cumming she will still go on for about 1min to make sure my D stops throbbing. Then open her mouth to show the the jizz and swallow

So back then if I go massage, I stop opting for BJ anymore to stay safe to protect her health and safety to be a responsible person la. Don’t want to fk someone life up. Mostly I will find tit fuck or if the lady really sexy, HJ.

we broke up 4 months ago. Guess there will be a lucky man soon haha think she’s on tinder/CMB trying to find a man to settle down I guess ( heard this from a friend, and I’m her 2bf. Her 1bf was a nerd phd guy who never even do anything to her, I took her innocence lol )

Now? I still chiong but as mentioned, tit fk mostly to stay safe. Back then intern my salary peanut I chiong like 3-4 times a month. Now my salary getting higher and higher but I chiong maybe 1-2 times a month. I miss my ex not sure my next gf will be as wild as this